@Earthgirl I just realized I use nude and flesh to mean caucasian colored flesh. I actually never use flesh, it is just that is what I would assume. I do use the word nude. Nude lipliner, nude pantyhose, interesting. But, when it is talking about buying something for myself, I mean nude for me. If a black person asked me for a nude something or ther, I would think nude for them. Chanel has a new lipliner they call beige, I just saw it a couple days ago when I was looking for a nude lipliner. I did work in the lingerie world for a while, and we had ivory, beige, and brown to match skin colors.