I guess because we live in a sue society. I think this nurse had a political agenda. A lot about her was pulled down today on her personal blog. Things that proved to me that this so called “nurse” had a full blown political agenda to embarrass two Governors and influence an election next week in the northeast. She didn’t care much for the health of her fellow Americans.

Sorry but I don’t have much respect for this woman.

Hell, I could use a break shut in for the better part of a month. Just give me a guitar and a computer and I’ll be fine. The idea of suing because you are being stopped from endangering others is beyond comprehension. This woman is just a simple c**t.

@ARE_you_kidding_me I know!! Just imagine how great it would be to be shut in for 21 days with the government guaranteeing I would not have a loss of salary. TV, food, computer, cell phone and no worries. Heck, sign me up!!!!

And please tell me they didn’t withdraw it because of the threat. I am trying to find the latest about it. I am baffled.

Sure, pay ‘em for their time if they are coming back from working against the disease overseas. That way it is more like a paid vacation and not being held in a detention center.

Too bankrupting to pay them as if they are actually at work. How much do they pay for jury duty by the way?

Isolation in a hospital ward seems very drastic for someone who is not showing symptoms, and who was voluntarily caring for others who were ill. Home isolation for 21 days seems much more sensible and Chris Christie has overstepped his bounds again.

@marinelife It is Governer Cuomo as well right?
And, considering that they don’t all show symtoms at first, and considering that CDC has to be able to say for certain that the person never came in contact with anyone else, which they can’t if it is voluntary, it is worth it. People are dying from this thing afterall.

…And in an American big city hospital, for 21 days is “drastic”?

By the way at Doctors Without Borders, they get paid around $2000,/month, Can.
Jury dury pays around $50/month. Correct me if I’m wrong.

@flo Many more people die every year from the flu, which is actually airborne and contagious. Should all flu sufferers be quarantined? This disease is not easliy infectious. Quarantine is an overreaction

Governor Cuomo changed his position today.

@flo More people died last night from the flu than have died in the US from ebola. Ebola is not very contagious unless one has contact with blood, feces, piss, vomit or gobs of saliva. The virus does not live very long outside of the body. So as long as you are not getting thrown up on (when was the last time that happened to you in public?) or you are not wiping up people’s diarrhea, the risk is almost nil. And before symptoms, the person is not contagious, so quarantining is nonsensical.

Had your flu shot yet? Influenza is much more dangerous than ebola.

Influenza is more widespread than ebola. Ebola kills at a much, much higher percentage than flu. I think home quarantine is a sensible reaction.

A major part of her complaint is about the entire process. She was not “in an American big city hospital”, she was in a tent without plumbing outside a hospital. There’s a difference.
Just FYI.

For what it’s worth:
Seasonal influenza-related deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom seasonal influenza infection was likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the primary cause of death.”

The above quote is from: CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm

Why are health care givers contracting it if it is sooooo hard to contract?

@canidmajor I stand corrected about the tent part. But is the tent just any old tent or not? Is it still a big American city’s hospital compound or not?
With internet access, including Skype, etc. can it be that much of a hardship?

@flo They aren’t, really. They are suspected of it. But one health care worker returning from West Africa is not a trend. And two nurses in Dallas worked at a hospital that was sloppy in handling a sick patient.

Ebola is not a very hardy virus. The automatic quarantine of asymptomatic people is just way overboard and leading to silly panic.

@flo: No plumbing. Yes, it’s pretty unpleasant. I have a feeling that if she had been appropriately notified, had been been checked in a medically responsible manner, and had been quarantined inside, things might be different.
They first identified Ebola in humans in 1976. 38 years ago. To go into full panic mode now, when so much is being done to quell the spread is a bit odd. It spreads so rapidly in places that don’t have the resources to contain it and deal with it like the US does.

The idea that someone who had worked with patients in West Africa would not be responsible enough the self-quarantine at her home is bizarre. I suspect that Christie’s policies are more about a political agenda (for which he is known) than the safety of the people f New Jersey.

“They aren’t, really. They are suspected of it. But one health care worker returning from West Africa is not a trend.” by @zenvelo Oct 28 or 29/2014.
So the 2 nurses plus a doctor = 1 health care health care worker is your arithmetic, @zenvelo?

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/25-august-2014/en/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2014/10/15/ebola-has-already-killed-more-than-200-doctors-nurses-and-other-healthcare-workers/

@canidmajor “The idea that someone who had worked with patients in West Africa would not be responsible enough the self-quarantine at her home is bizarrer.” How about the idea that the word of anyone, who had worked with patients in West Africa, has to be the absolute truth, is bizzare. That is just the major thing. I can go on.

@flo Yes, that is my arithmetic! And it is correct! Quit freaking out over something that is not a threat to you in any way shape or form!

You posted stats from West Africa where ebola has been popping up for 36 years!

And look at your news sources critically. There is a lot of misinformation and fear being promulgated; it might be interesting to speculate on whom is profiting from fear-mongering.

@flo: I am not a careless person with my health to that of others (and I know you didn’t say that in any way) but I feel that panicking about Ebola will likely cause me so much stress as to make me ill.

Be mindful. Be aware of what’s happening around you without obsessing. Everyone who has contracted Ebola in th USA has recovered..

There is a political agenda in a lot of the panic fostered by some “news” sources, not actual concern for the American public.

@zenvelo _“Yes, that is my arithmetic! And it is correct! 2+1 = 3 Now that is what I call an answer.

….Please read “Yes, that is my arithmetic! And it is correct!” (2+1 =1) Now that is what I call an answer. I can go on about the rest of your post.

@canidmajor
1)So, you agree 2+1 =1 like @zenvelo (women’s lives don’t count?)
2)What about the content of my last post?
3)” Everyone who has contracted Ebola in th USA has recovered..” How does that address anything? Whether you contracted here or there makes no difference. whether they ended up dying or not makes no difference. It is either not hard to contract, or it is.

@flo It is hard to get ebola unless you are exposed to bodily fluids. And one is not contagious until one is symptomatic. And no on who has contracted ebola in the US has died.

@flo, your annoyance at my attempt to point out that I feel that your level of panic is uncalled far has you putting words in my mouth and making assumptions about who I do or don’t agree with is silly.
It is not easy to contract from casual contact. Try not to lick affected people.

I hope you stay healthy and that the stress of worrying about this doesn’t make you Ill.

A judge told Maine No Quarantine

Edited:
Some of your posts reminded me to post an OP about the Campbell/Soup Warhol.

@zenvelo, @canidmajor
1) read Erica’s et al’s posts under that article.
2) No judge is infallible. Some are outrageous even, There must be other judges who find his decision wrong.
@zenvelo You declared that you lost the argument here

@zenvelo and by the way the silence re. my post before last, (Warhol/Campblell’s Soup) says it all. I would have expected “What does that habe to do with it?” or so.

@flo This is in general, I try to stay on topic. I answered your other question as best I could on its own thread.

As of today, US Ebola incidents: 4 cases, 1 death (two infections originated in the United States, one in Liberia and one in Guinea).

The whole quarantine thing is overblown political fear-mongering.

@zenvelo Thanks to Erica et al, and thank you for that link, although you didn’t know you were going to get stumped.

@flo Stumped? Where? Who is Erica?

And are you still freaking out about someone who has no need to be quarantined?

Hi-lie-ree-yes @zenvelo