To both of you…
Vice is a moral description of an irrational choice and the subsequent action.
Virtue is a moral description of a rational choice and subsequent action.
Barry Goldwater, an ancient politician of whom I have little knowledge, can deliver in a speech any sort of political slogan he wants to. The implication is that if politicians say it, it must have some value and an element of truth.
You apparently believe this @Yetanotheuser. Out of courtesy, I will not accuse you of being a fool.
But in truth if politicians say it, it may be de facto evidence that it is bullshit.
Words have meaning and to a critter with conceptual consciousness words are almost sacred. People who try to redifine words without an established social convention, are putting a rational civilization at risk.
A civilization like the West, which puts a value on reason and convention, and recognizes the conceptual nature of human consciousness, is vulnerable to attacks by people who imagine that words are “merely words”.
Maybe this is by design. Perhaps you are doing your part to fuck up humanity’s chance at universal peace and harmony which I think is the West’s potential legacy.
If so, in my opinion, you should be ashamed.
And that is all I have to say about that.