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Are you a snowflake?

Asked by Cruiser (40421points) March 15th, 2017
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Kyle Reyes, CEO of The Silent Partner Marketing makes applicants take the “snowflake test” they have to pass before they will be considered for an interview and he says most will fail they test.

Quoting Mr. Reyes…
“But here’s the thing. I don’t want most people to work for my company. No, seriously. Most people suck.”

WHAT. DID. HE. JUST. SAY????

“I said most people suck. Really. Not just professionally. Just as people. They are whiny, needy, entitled little brats. Not just millennials. Their parents. Their grandparents. Their kids. Lots of people. And I want people to work for me who don’t suck.”

Could you pass his Snowflake Test?

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Mariah's avatar

If expecting a fair, non-discriminatory work environment makes me a snowflake, then I guess I’m a fucking snowflake. I’m so sick of this kind of rhetoric.

ragingloli's avatar

That quote just shows that he would fail his own test.

elbanditoroso's avatar

His company, he can ask what he wants. If he succeeds, then good for him.

I looked at his list of questions. I’d say all but one are entirely irrelevant to whether one has the skills to do the job. I think he’s looking for like-minded sycophants, not skilled and creative people.

But again, he runs the company, and he will succeed or fail based on his decisions.

flutherother's avatar

It sounds like he’s looking for doormats to walk all over.

zenvelo's avatar

Nope,

I am not some whiny little underachieving white kid from a Red State who thinks everybody is out to get my job, and I need a gun to stand up for myself because some teenage minority kid might scowl at me,

chyna's avatar

That is what the governor of our state kept calling a man in the audience last night at a town hall meeting. Apparently it is now ok to be a political leader and call people names.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Lol, I’d pass with flying colors. A few departments I worked for were really PC, you could never relax and really get to know your coworkers. With everyone on guard and on tiptoes about feelings and shit made it toxic. Only questions I would fire back would be what are your turnover rates and do your employees feel like and treat each other like family.

DominicY's avatar

No thanks, I don’t work for hicks.

Now, I don’t want a trigger warning safe-space candy ass work environment either. But must we choose extremes? No one’s ever mentioned “triggers” and “safe spaces” where I work, but there’s also no talk of guns and flags and snowflakes either. I think we can pick something in the middle.

@zenvelo Nice. I lol’d. It’s fucking stupid to think only people on the left are “whiny”. The right can be just as bad.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees?
Whatever is needed to keep them here
What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns?
Ok with me, can I bring mine?
What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments?
Hahahaha
Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”?
No

How do you feel about police?
Glad they are here, hope I never need them

When was the last time you cried and why?

Age 35, grandfather died.

What are your thoughts on the current college environment as it pertains to a future workforce?

Students leave unprepared for the workforce, have unrealistic expectations and an inflated sense of ability.

What does “faith” mean to you?
Trust

You see someone stepping on an American Flag. What happens next?
I ask why and then probably cuss them out depending on the answer.

BellaB's avatar

Mr. Reyes seems like a whiny asshole. I’m sure he’d be fine with my assessment of him.

tinyfaery's avatar

Fuck yeah, I’m a snowflake. I’m a one of a kind cold fractal of beauty and complexity. I’ll melt into a warm pile in the right condition, or given a cold, hard situation, I will stick to anything like fuckin’ glue and make your life hell.

As far as Kyle Reyes is concerned, he can kiss my cold hard ass if he thinks I will let anyone walk all over me or thinks that I will bow under the pressure of an egotistic, judgmental, whiny man-child.

janbb's avatar

@tinyfaery Tell it sister!

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

@DominicY you have no idea. I live in the bible belt and religion is not taboo at all at work, team meals and meetings are usually started with a prayer. I basically have to keep my lack of faith secret because when people find out many turn into whiny little bitches or act like I’m some kind of pariah. The right is full of snowflakes too. I often feel like it’s just constantly snowing.

Zaku's avatar

CEO & “keynote speaker” Kyle S. Rayes sounds like an extra special knave.

Oh, and I wonder how much more of this annoying issue we’re going to have to suffer through arguments about. “The right of employers to politically profile employees… etc”

jca's avatar

I work for a union and also am a union member, so without taking the test (I will take it later), I’m sure I’m considered a snowflake.

jca (36054points)“Great Answer” (4points)
jca's avatar

“It’s 30 short-answer and essay-style questions that help us to really get to know a candidate. We want to get in their heads. See how they apply logic and reason to different scenarios. See what makes them tick. See if they’d be a good fit for our culture.
Among those questions?
Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees?
What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns?
What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments?
Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”?
How do you feel about police?
When was the last time you cried and why?
What are your thoughts on the current college environment as it pertains to a future workforce?
What does “faith” mean to you?
You see someone stepping on an American Flag. What happens next?

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dappled_leaves's avatar

What @zenvelo said. Republicans are really embracing the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” approach lately.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I get super sick of asshole big wigs like this Kyle S. Rayes who thinks the working class should kiss his super white ass 24/7 just to have a job in turn he can turn around and pay and treat them like dirt.
I am super glad at this point in my life I won’t and don’t have to work for assholes like him.
Oh I guess that makes me a snowflake, but I am not a yellow snowflake the kind this asshole likes to piss on.

Kropotkin's avatar

“Snowflake” isn’t any sort value-free, defined, or measurable term.

The questionnaire isn’t empirically valid, and appears to be a projection of this person’s own prejudices and own grievances.

Would I pass this cretin’s idiotic test? Probably not. Probably because my answers would outrage him. Or “trigger” as these dumb twats like to say.

There’s one question I can answer from his list.

“When was the last time you cried and why?”

Last week. I was chopping onions.

Dutchess_III's avatar

No.

I want to take the test! I went into your link expecting to take a test. I love taking tests. WHERE IS MY TEST??? I could be lying about not being a snowflake, but how can I know if I can’t take the test?!?

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I hate to completely judge based on an article that probably cherry picked the questions to include in the report. It’s his business, if he wants to run it into the ground by limiting who he’ll hire let him. I’m willing to bet though he knows who he does not want and it’s much better not to make a bad hire in the first place.

Berserker's avatar

Not even going to take his test. The fuck you have to do anyway, shovel the walk and shoot moose?

Cruiser's avatar

I understand and expected a lot here to be taken aback/offended by this CEO and his metric of weeding out snowflakes, but as a business owner, after reading the article I can proudly say out of 12 employees I only have one snowflake in my company and she was hired by the first owner 24 years ago when a snowflake maybe served him well, it has become clear to me that this very snowflake who is also my partner is the only employee who is more concerned about her than her job or the business AND she is a part owner. Not that I need a snowflake test to weed out the ones who would not hold their job and work ethic in the highest regard, she doesn’t and she would have failed after the first 2 questions. This CEO IMO has accurately identified the weakness that is pervasive in our workforce and the core difference between movers and shakers and snowflakes. Snowflakes are content just doing their job, movers and shakers are hungry and committed to doing more and kicking ass at their jobs. I totally relate to Kyles mind set. His employees and my employees will roll up their sleeves to help clean the Moose we just shot and shovel up all the snowflakes in our way.

Kropotkin's avatar

@Cruiser You’re the best argument for a socialist economic system that I’ve seen on this site.

If you need a clue what that means—it’s one with no bosses.

Cruiser's avatar

@Kropotkin You then are a poster child for the prime reason of getting rid of entitlements. Sure….you must be a genius…let the barely educated some being immigrant worker bees to try to figure out how to manage the company they work for, get their jobs done, design better products, make more sales, negotiate better deals with vendors, get insurance to cover all the insurance needs the employees and company needs and pay all the bills and cover payroll. In order for that to work, a Boss will have to emerge to manage the hot mess you envision and you are back living in your evil boss world.

I delegate to deserving employees to be the boss of their areas, but they rely on me to give them direction so they can get their jobs done correctly and efficiently and manage the workers and tasks they are responsible for. End result is my business model like Kyle’s is thriving. Job security, great pay, huge benefits package for my employees is what keeps them hungry and ready to kick serious ass each day they come to work. Only one employee has snowflaked on me and her days are numbered.

Berserker's avatar

I don’t want to see anyone here for their wages; PASSION MOTHERFUCKERS!!

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

All I can say is I’m getting really tired of the snowflakes who won’t pull their weight at work while they complain and leave the rest of us with the extra burden. PC HR and management stands by and won’t touch it.

BellaB's avatar

@Kropotkin, just listened to a fascinating interview with a fellow in Sweden who works at a company that has dumped the CEO position. Seems that in many company types, things work better without a single boss at the top.

I’m glad I work in a country where any employer who tried to ask questions like that would be shut down before they could get started. Whole bunch of none of your fíng business questions there. He’s a whiny snowflake and so are most people who think their employees’ world view are any of their business. Whiny to the max.’

Mind your own business about my life and I’ll mind my own business about yours. I really hate employers who think they are entitled to know anything about my life and my views.

Cruiser's avatar

@BellaB Sorry to pop your bubble but I am handcuffed by what I can ask an employee or prospective hire. There are ample laws that protect and prevent an employer from getting into your personal business. If they know anything about your personal life you more than likely spoke about it in the open, or posted it on social media or Fluther.

Mariah's avatar

^ I’m confused. The entire premise of the question is of an employer asking prying personal questions about the views of prospective employees.

Cruiser's avatar

@Mariah Please re-read the questions asked…they do not cross the line of legal protections of discrimination afforded to applicants or exceed the boundaries of other questions I have seen suggested to me to ask during interviews. This CEO merely chooses to filter out people who bristle at the questions that expose them as “Snowflakes”. His choice, his company. Why would you want to work for a company that expected you to work HARD unless you wanted to work HARD to do your job and get decent above the ordinary compensation afforded similar job opportunities????????? And why should any company be expected to hire an employee that did not fit the set goals of the company’s mission statement?? Just because you or they are under the impression you are qualified to do the job I advertise….if you express ideas or views that do not jive with my vision…why on earth would I want to hire you or give you any empowerment that you deserve a brass ring at my company???

Mariah's avatar

Interesting. It seems to me that most of the questions are about candidates’ political views, which seems like something employers should not be asking about.

I fail to see how my opinion on gun law or faith is going to indicate whether or not I’ll work hard, personally.

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Kropotkin's avatar

@BellaB That’s not a surprise at all. Top-down authoritarian structures were notoriously inefficient, prone to detrimenal group-think, and generally produced less than optimal outcomes in the Soviet Union.

Many capitalists seem to think the same sort of organsational structure that worked terribly for the USSR should be ideal for capitalist enterprises.

Of course, they think that because it’s self-serving. If you’re at the top of the organisation, you have more power, and can remunerate yourself more handsomely—and can rationalise this as some deserved outcome of some meritocratic order, and believe those below would be helplessly lost without you. It’s a nice story that many bosses like to tell themselves.

There’s an interesting company in Brazil called Semco. They didn’t do away with the CEO, but CEO decided he would effectively let the workers run the company and introduced the sort of radical worker democracy that you normally only find in co-operatives or anarchist syndicates. The company profits increased by about 50 fold.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

So, let me guess, being angered by discrimination against minorities would make me a “snowflake,” but likely flipping your shit over someone else stepping on the flag makes someone… what, exactly?

cazzie's avatar

This is what us ‘snowflakes’ do in Norway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYx9wbCsl14

MrGrimm888's avatar

I read the article. The author seems like a self absorbed moron.

I wonder if I knew the exact job he was hiring for, would I think the questions have any relevance. Because I can’t think of why any of the questions would do anything but point out like minded people.

The author complains about entitled, lazy people. But he himself won’t put in the work of interviewing people. He also sounds entitled himself, and the only thing I take from the article, or the questions, is that the author is close minded,and probably not very smart…

It is indeed his right to hire who he wants. A decent interview would provide more information about a prospective employee than this odd questionnaire. If I were applying for the job, and I saw this questionnaire, I would walk out. The person who concocted it clearly has a multitude of problems. I wouldn’t work for the man, for any amount of money. I feel I learned more about the employer by just reading his questions, than he could learn by reading my answers.

I feel sorry for those he employs, and more sorry for anyone who doesn’t have enough self respect to simply leave the process,when they see the questionnaire.

The author seems like a stupid person, who has a undeserved, very high opinion of himself. His questionnaire points to him being so insecure with himself, that he must surround himself with people who would never expose his lack of intelligence, or creativity. He wants to walk gleefully unaware,down the halls of an echo chamber,never having to question his own beliefs. Hopefully he can replace his human employees with robots soon. Maybe the poor idiot can program them to pat him on the back and give him the reassurance he so desperately needs to keep his pathetic ego inflated.

It always interests me how people like him think. He thinks he’s putting up with/tolerating most people. When in fact, most people are tolerating him

I agree with him about one thing. People suck. He’s proof of that…

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Nice answer ^^^^^ @MrGrimm888 !

cazzie's avatar

Calling people a snowflake is just another way of dismissing people who don’t agree with you by inventing a new pejorative. He may as well write on his hire ads ‘No Libtards’ because that’s exactly what he’s getting at.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Yup. I’ve worked doors before,where the dress code was ; no jerseys, no loose/saggy pants, no hats,no untucked shirts…..... in other words, NO BLACK PEOPLE.

This reminds me of Chic-filla. They only hire Christians, and you can’t own one without being Christian. Lots of their profits go to mega churches…

LostInParadise's avatar

Snowflakes are wonderful. They have a basic 6 pointed template but display a wide diversity of shapes. If I ran a company, I would want diverse thinking. Having everyone thinking the same way is asking for trouble and hiring a bunch of toadies who grovel before authority is not going to get you anywhere. Am I a snowflake? I sure hope so!

cazzie's avatar

He says he is running a very creative company but by dismissing people’s talents because of their politics, he can not be hiring the best people for the job. Like someone mentioned, he just wants sycophants around him and that is lazy.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

It’s not just liberals who are snowflakes, it actually crosses all social lines. Context for some of these questions would help. The gun question for example: If you work in a secured area like one that is guarded by people with guns it would be nice to know you’re not going to freak out at the sight of one. I do think this guy was being political and probably hands out copies of the fountainhead to his employees. I have put up with plenty of asshole bosses, some were effective some not. Arrogance can be magnified when the layer of management under them are fixing all the fuckups from these folks if just to save their own employment and make the work pleasant for the people directly under them.

cazzie's avatar

Ues, but in this instance his questions are rather pointed in one direction.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I’m agreeing with you.

cazzie's avatar

Sorry. Migraine and on the bus. Didn’t read all or write all.

jca's avatar

@MrGrimm888: I’ve heard that said before about those specific dress codes (that they equate to “no black people”). I don’t understand how a club owner who wants people to dress neatly should equate to “no” any kind of people. If people can dress a certain way, they can enter. If I want to go to a fancy club in jeans and sneakers (being a white woman), I wouldn’t be allowed to enter either. If I could put dress it up a few notches, I might get in.

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cazzie's avatar

The director Kevin Smith wouldn’t be allowed in the club? I bet they choose who they use the dress code again.

ragingloli's avatar

As if we needed any more confirmation that he is a cunt.

flutherother's avatar

There is something wrong with Kyle and there is no way I would want to work with him whatever it is he does.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Interesting. The guys a bigger loser than I thought…

Trigger warning? Sadly, this is just the type of rhetoric I expect from such a person. Again, I feel sorry for him. He’s pretty hell bent on making sure everyone knows how big his bar is, and that he shoots guns. Overcompensating for something? Yeah. Just like “little hands” Trump.

I don’t like to make blanket statements, but this guy is what’s wrong with America. What a pathetic, self advocating, self absorbed, low informed, big mouth.

Does he think that video makes him look cool or popular? What an idiot. LOL.

cazzie's avatar

Wow…. Thanks for that, @Cruiser . The guy is a bigger douche than I imagined!

ragingloli's avatar

@MrGrimm888
It certainly makes him popular with all the knuckledragging mouth breathers that want to be just like him.

Mariah's avatar

Jesus Christ, that video. What a fucking douchecanoe.

Liberals are the one accused of “seeking out offense,” but he just managed to use twists and turns of (un)logic to stretch a protest against the mistreatment of Native Americans (who are indeed grossly mistreated) into “I hate the vets.”

People like him are just as angry and “offended” as the people he’ll call snowflakes, he just only thinks it’s acceptable to be angry about the same things he’s angry about.

Do you realize he is literally trying to build a “safe space” for himself at work by refusing to interact with or hire people who disagree with his politics?

No surprise that he reveals himself to be a fan of Milo in the top comment, either.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@ragingloli .It’s difficult for me to understand how such a person would have any followers… Humanity is clearly collapsing in on itself.

He still hasn’t said what type of business he even runs. I bet he’s showing us around his own room, at his rich parent’s house. He seems to be arguing with himself about America…

The injured veteran is an odd injection,with no context. If he’s so patriotic, why didn’t he join, and serve? Then he could point at his own war wound…

What a joke…

Brian1946's avatar

@Mariah

Thanks for your perspective on the video and saving me from the annoyance of watching it.

Regarding Native Americans and vets: there was a group of vets that protested the Dakota Access pipeline along with the Standing Rock Sioux. I’m a Vietnam War vet and I also support the protesters, so this vet and those courageous enough to risk getting shot with rubber bullets and sprayed with water during freezing weather, are not experiencing any “hate” from Native Americans.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

WOW that video proves that guy is a first class as swipe to call him a cunt is to nice.Kyle S. Rayes wins fist place as what a boss shouldn’t be.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Should we take a collection, and buy this guy a clue?

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I do believe this guy knows what he is doing. He knows this is over the top, he is trolling and it’s giving his biz attention. Anyone else notice what they do and who they are catering to? It’s probably working.

Kropotkin's avatar

@ARE_you_kidding_me That’s plausible. It seems that there’s a fair number of people jumping aboard the reactionary anti-intellectual bandwagon, exactly because there’s so much currency in it at the moment.

There’s probably never been a better time to be an ideological snake-oil merchant. Telling the credulous what they want to hear has always been profitable—but especially so now.

Pandering to this wave of emboldened reactionary idiocy could well be a good marketing ploy. And the CEO of this company just happens to be running a marketing company—essentially a professional liar.

You could be on to something.

Cruiser's avatar

I will say this for the last time…I have only hired 2 of the 12 employees I inherited from the previous owner and when I applied Kyle’s metric to the employees in my company only one snowflake stood out like a sore thumb and she is my partner of this company. Earlier she was crying because I switched our payroll from the basic arm of service to the full menu of HR services this payroll company provides and instead of processing payroll in 10 minutes it now took HER 45 minutes…she even cried into the phone with the HR rep how awful it was for her to process payroll yet how great this new switch was for the employees (she is an employee). YOU ARE AN OWNER AND STOP CRYING AND DO YOUR JOB!! This snowflake is a cancer in our company and each employee is questioning my sanity for keeping her employed and as a partner. Not for much longer.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Maybe if she starts carrying a gun at work she’ll be smarter…

Cruiser's avatar

@MrGrimm888 Not a smart move…she will be out gunned.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^So. Seriously. How do the questions relate to the work your employees perform?

Irukandji's avatar

Fun fact: the term “snowflake” originally referred to people like Trump or @Cruiser who suffer from immense amounts of white fragility. It was only recently co-opted by the right, which has never had an original idea in its entire history of trying to preserve what it used to hate now that it’s no longer new and unfamiliar.

@Cruiser “when I applied Kyle’s metric to the employees in my company only one snowflake stood out like a sore thumb and she is my partner of this company”

Kyle doesn’t have a metric. He has a series of questions. But without some sort of answer key, there’s no way of knowing which answers yield a positive or negative result. You’ve just decided to provide the answers yourself based on what you want to hear (just like Kyle surely does). It’s a textbook case of circular reasoning.

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jca's avatar

@Cruiser has left the building. :(

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canidmajor's avatar

@Cruiser leaves the building fairly regularly. I often (well, mostly) don’t agree with him, but it seems to be a fairly effective way to avoid escalating an already fraught thread. Not a bad idea, IMO.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

In defense of @Cruiser he still posts questions knowing y’all are going to be on the attack. For some it may be the only alternative viewpoint that is heard on this site.

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