Ummmm… Sometimes.

By the way, you might wanna check your math again, buddy. ; )

I’m a smart ass!!

Than a 5th grader, Yes!!

I just happen to be very clever. Modest too.

Uh….

Whenever I start to think I am, the universe conspires to prove me wrong.

For some reason my friend thinks he’s a smart ass but he ends up acting like jack***. but his antics are yet genius.

Everyone is smart in their own way!

Dont worry Harp, your not the only one this cruel world seems to go after from time to time.

Nah, I consider it a favor, actually

I like to consult my motivational quote of cheek and inspiration ” wit beyond measure is man’s greatest treasure ” Luna Lovegood, Harry potter and the order of the phoenix chptr. 10, I think.

.999999999999999999999999 does not equal 1

O_o????????????????44+5=???oOo

I know I’m smart cause I’m hanging with smart people on fluther.

I’m smart?

@tiny: Better than being a dumb ass, I always say! ;)

0.9999999999999999999999999 definitely equals 1. i can prove it.

Nope. Couldn’t think my way out of a plastic bag. Not even a plastic bag with holes. Not even one ripped to shreds. Sigh. Do me a favor. When you put the bag on my head, use the shredded one.

No. But, I am S. M. R. T.

I’m smarter than the average person. I find this absolutely tragic because I’m really a bit of an idiot.

Hell yeah!!!!
I’m so ‘briny’..I mean ‘brainy’. I’m a ‘sea of knowledge’!
And….while I’m on a ‘roll’......
I’m also…..

…..fabulously wealthy: Must be the ‘sticky’ fingers..
.....un*wavering* in my opinions.
.....a fiend…ahhh…friend to all.
.....‘slick’ and ‘saucy’.
.....‘well-rounded*: O.K. more of an ovoid-shape.
.....very flexible.
.....obscure…though some would call me transparent…They’re just *jelly*ous!

I have been known to take things too *sea*riously. Sometimes I feel more ‘blue’ than I look. And I’ve been called ‘spineless’....although I’m known to ‘bite’ back when provoked.

How do ya like me so far?

^ Ughh..just a little creeped out, but whatever floats your boat?!...

Not right now. Thanks, vodka.

0.99999999999999999999 does not equal 1. 0.999999999999999999999999999… does. You gotta have the ellipsis in there, otherwise it’a finite number. And there’s no proof that says that, it gets arbitrarily close, but not equal. It equals 1 because the Axiom of Choice says it does.

Am I smart? I don’t know. But am I insane? Like a fox.

I am far from perfect, but am always becoming more wise.

Well, sometimes..

True knowledge is beautiful gift to have.

But knowledge doesn’t always mean smart.

true like the saying goes.

what about intellect?

Pete: (High five.)
PnL: stfu. :p

Really?

too much PnL hatred going on these days :(

@PnL I still lurve you. Paris sucks!

How could anyone hate PnL?

Ah, we all love you PnL. You’re just wrong on one small mathmatical issue, that’s all.

Give her a break…she only forgot the ellipsis.

thank you tinyfaery and augstlan. i guess i know who my true friends are * sniff sniff * petey, want to ask the flutherers whether they think .999999…. = 1? :)

winblowzxp…pete isn’t talking about the ellipsis. he (wrongly) thinks that .99999… does not equal 1

wrongly correctly

Correctly? I would then have to say that 3*(1/3) ≠ 1.

Not this again. Look what you’ve started, PnL!!

pete mentioned it first!

The point I was making is that if you say that the above is true, then you would have to say that its decimal equivalent is true as well.

I think you should have taken part in our discussion about it.

-Aw lets aks the collective—

I’m not smart when i’m drunk either nikipedia.

Pete: Are you sure you want to open that can of worms? Remember what happened.. It was us vs. allllllll.

Hey don’t ask me!! i’m a drum head in mathematics, and pete it depends what you drink, what is it by the way, and PnL i’ll agree with what ever math stuff you say, seeing as i don’t Know squat about much of it. :)

wrestlemaniac – you made the right choice :) sticks tongue out at pete and allie

Thank you! :)

wrestlemaniac: You have chosen poorly. PnL doesn’t know as much about math as you think. Are you really going to take math advice from someone who sticks her tongue out at people like a four year old?

pfft. that just shows i can be a math wiz and FUN at the same time

Listen to the voice of reason (aka ME!!), wm.

I stand by my choice, no Comment, except How would i know how much PnL knows on math? , i got an D- on my final report card for algebra. x_x

Ok, maybe PnL is good at math. Here’s another question though: How do you know Pete and I aren’t?

Okay, okay i thought about it and you know what no one is right no one is wrong, let’s all be friends, just as proof Allie and pete do you know the answer to this
30x(2) – 60x + 42 = -5x(2) +31x Using the quadratic formula, i can’t remember how to do this.

ooh oooh i know the answer!!!

Okay, lol but, give em a minute lets see if they can put their math where their mouth is…..(winking at PnL) :)

For 30x^2 – 60x +42: If you use the quadratic formula (-b plus/minus sq. rt. b2 – 4ac /2a) the you end up with a – under the sq rt… foul!
For -5x^2 +31x: -62/10 (or -6.2) or -0/10

And PnL? let’s hear it!!!

i don’t know what allie is smoking up there. but i got 2 & 0.6 as my answer. and if you plug and chug it, it works :). so i win !!! :D

Oh, fine.. but .9999999.. ≠ 1

see wrestlemaniac, you made the right choice after all :)

all this math is making my head hurt :(

you go Girl!!!! people she right, Go PnL!! :) good job. and thanks like i say i always make good choices.

Oh and about the .9999999999…..= 1 i think PnL might be right on that too, let me check.

this thread has been quite an ego booster after all. @wrestle – i am right on it! mathematicians world wide agree

I guess I’m stupid.. =\

you are not stupid. how can you be stupid when you are MY friend? haha j/k. ya know i love you! but 0.999… still equals 1

Ok, yours and UB’s first argument: “If it ends, it ends in a 9.” Second argument: “If it doesn’t end, it’s 9999.. on and on.”
Pick one, first of all, does it end or doesn’t it? Next, if it ends and ends in a nine then it definitely doesn’t equal 1. (I think we can all agree on that.) If it doesn’t end and has 9’s forever, then it only gets closer and closer to 1, but never reaches 1.
And yeah, yeah, yeah.. I’ve heard the whole divided by 10 and 1/3 stuff before.

PnL Just received Gold!!! Gooooooooaaaaaal!

P.S, PnL, cute picture!!

ok. that’s not my argument. that’s ub’s argument. my argument is plain and simple.
eq a) – 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 3/3 = 1.
and 1/3 = 0.333….
eq b) – 0.333… +0.33…. +0.33…= 0.9999…
but since the eqs a) and b) mean the same thing, therefore, 0.9999… must = 1. tadah!

@wrestle – thanks.

anytime, if you ever need support for something let me know. ;)

What about the Descartes Theory?

Allie, PnL, Pete, any one of you guys know this i’m R.I.P on this X_X.

@wrestle – know what? i am confused.
@dulce – what about it?

Exactly pnl. You can’t have 3/3 equal 1 and not it’s decimal equivalent. You actually learn about this in calculus.

hey i’m as confused as you PnL, does Allie know anything about it?

The theory about thinking, thoughts, and ideas? About how if you can doubt something, then you can think about it? About how senses are unreliable? Yeah, we studied it in Philosophy.

oooh. i didn’t even know that we are talking about Descartes. dulce never got back to us on the connection.

probably couldn’t handle the pressure here.

Hey! i can handle, i meant to ask if if anyone here understood the theory?

You vile wicked person! (as stewie)

He talks about how if you can doubt an idea, then it means you’re thinking about it, and if you can think about something, it means you’re a “thinking thing” as he would say. He also talked about how our senses are unreliable. We can see how a block of wax looks, tastes, smells, and feels.. but when we melt the wax those change, but it’s still wax.

O_o can you simplify it in stupid english pleease?

If you can question a statement and think about ways that it might be false, then it means you can think. If you can think, then it means you are, as he put it, a “thinking thing.” Basically, if you doubt, then you think. You don’t just blindly accept everything (even the things that are false).
Hard wax and melted wax are still both wax, but have very different properties. So if your senses tell you the differences between the two kinds of wax, but they are both wax, then how can you trust your senses 100%?
Better?

Allie, I accept everything you say implicitly!

The properties are still the same, it’s just that one is in a solid form, and the other is liquid.

I think you can get the main point, winblow. Or can’t you?

Thank you!! now i don’t feel left out.

Philosophical point, scientific counterpoint.

ARGH! Not this again!
0.3333333333333333… =/= 1/3!

It has the same issues as 0.9999999999999999.. = 1
0.3333333333333333…is infinitely approaching 1/3.

I still love you, PnL.

Oh Nims! (hugsss)

[Hugs and a math nerd high-five!]

<3

(1) 0.9
(2) 0.9 + 0.09
(3) 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009
(4) 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009 + 0.0009
(5) 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009 + 0.0009 + 0.00009
.
.
.

0.99999999999999999… is the limit of the sequence of partial sums listed above as the number of summands approaches infinity or, more succinctly, 0.999999999999999… = 1.

Errrrggghhhhsdf;jsfdlaksjf!

YES. It approaches 1. BUT IT NEVER GETS THERE!!!!

That’s like saying a line eventually touches its asymptote.

petethepothead: “That’s like saying a line eventually touches its asymptote.”

Similar, but different. The definition of an asymptote involves a condition on a limit, but the definition of the sum of a convergent series is a limit. For a sequence <a_n>: lim a_n = L as n -> oo iff for every e > 0, there is an N such that for all n > N, |a_n – L| < e. The sum of a convergent series is just the limit of the sequence of its partial sums.

@ratboy – Welcome to the cool club :)

Good grief.

(sigh)

heehee.

<< Not in the cool club. :(

@tinyfaery Then by default you’re in the club with Pete and I. Congrats. Our clubs is much cooler.

True dat.

Hell yah! We can burn one down in our club.

Descartes thought, therefore he was. Wasn’t he?