What is the question?

I think this is mainly some sort of proposition to the mods or something.
Would it be like a webinar type thing? to teach newer people how to meet the writing standards? That would be a good idea. I’ve never seen a really good question that was removed, but if it didn’t break any writing standards then it probably broke another rule.

Well, since this site is no longer being developed, and the creators have moved on to Twitter (but drop in now and again to scare us,) I don’t think a webinar is really feasible, unless one of the mods wants to set one up.

I think there are two alternatives:
1) Go online for tutorials,,
2) Let us make suggestions for you as we go.

I haven’t seen that, and I’m slightly surprised you did. Is it possible it was actually removed for another reason (was it a General question and the answer didn’t literally answer it?) and the moderator maybe accidentally listed the wrong reason?

In general, Fluther wants people to use correct English and punctuation, which is usually why there would be a complaint about writing standards. But it doesn’t sound like that was the case. Or was the answer brilliant bUt wr1tN 1n h4×0r?

@SergeantQueen No I don’t mean a webinar. I mean in this OP “Would you help me be more clear in this text?”, one of you would answer:
“You could change the “I was going back to give it a GA” to “I went back to give it a GA”
Another person would point out another error or ask a detail that’s they need. Another person can correct punctuation related error, etc.
@Dutchess_III “Let us make suggestions for you as we go.” That’s what I’m doing by asking this question.
@Zaku I just know whatever writing standard problem there was. it didn’t confuse me.

@Zaku The same as my answer to @SergeantQueen.
@Dutchess_III How do you mean by as we go? I mean if someone asks a question (OP) about let’s say weather related question and before someone gives an answer they ask if their writing standard is OK, then it becomes off topic, doesn’t it?

@flo I think I understand what you’re asking… you want people who leave responses on the question to be able to offer specific tips on rewriting your question so that it’s clearer?

My experience is generally that people don’t like to be corrected, so I think that would not happen too often. However, I remember having asked for clarification on some of your past questions, as indeed I just did with this one. I seem to recall others doing the same. Do you find that helpful?

I can’t think of a way that would prevent unclear questions from being modded and sent back for editing, though. I think that’s something you’d have to discuss with the mods.

I agree with @dappled_leaves. It sounds like you’re asking advice on how to write a question well. We can help you with that, if you’re open to it.
If that’s not what you’re asking, please clarify.

@dappled_leaves 1)Yes that’s what I mean to your first question. It could be regarding the the gist of the answer or question, “Do you mean….?” if so, you might want to change…(a word or a senence) to…...” Or “You could add…as a tag/topic”*
2)Re. “My experience generally is that people don’t like to be corrected, so I think that would not happen too often.” I’m not asking for a segment of it’s own, like Meta Social General. This idea is for the people who’re looking to be corrected. They would have a OP to go to by searching it. The ones who don’t like to be correced wouldn’t use it, so no problem.

3) I’m refering to answers, though, (if you see in my detail: I went to give it a GA, but it was no longer there, because it was _Removed (writing standards)

@Dutchess_III I’m open to it , that’s why I’m asking.

@SergeantQueen “I’ve never seen a really good question that was removed” B the way, I’m referring to a an answer. not a question /OP. Answers that get removed for Spam, or Off Topic, or Unhelpful, Writing Standards, ...
Also I think whether a quesion or (an answer) is good or bad is mostly subjective right? Unless it’s math.

@flo in my experience with modded questions, they do point out the errors, and make suggestions. Since we don’t know what the question in question was, or who posted it, we don’t know if specific suggestions were made.

Grammatical rules and spelling errors are not subjective. Grammar, spelling and punctuation rules are just as clear cut as math rules. In my experience here, that’s the only time an answer gets modded for that reason, when the errors are really turribleawfulbad.

@Dutchess_III But I’m referring to answers When it comes to OPs, yes, they do point out the errors, and make suggestions.

Regarding “subjective”, I was adressing “I’ve never seen a really good question that was removed” by @SergeantQueen (he/she must have meant _“answer”)
So, I was referring to the substance of the answer, not the grammar spelling, etc. For example,whoever is adamantly against environmentalists is going to think that a post by an evironmentalists is garbage or close to it, right?

@flo Ah, I didn’t realize you were asking about the answers. I suspect the mods would find it too much work to send answers back for editing as well as questions. That would be hard to keep track of, I think.

I think that if an answer is flagged because the person flagging it doesn’t agree with it (like in your environmentalist example), but the writing is fine, then the mods would just ignore the flag and leave the answer alone. I suppose controversial answers might receive more attention, so perhaps bias does play a role in reporting. But the person answering has a responsibility to meet the writing standards of the site, in any case.

“OP” stands for “original poster.” It refers to the person who posted the question, not the post itself.

Agree with @dappled_leaves. Critiquing a question is work enough for our volunteers. To critique answers would be overwhelming.

@dappled_leaves
-”I suspect the mods would find it too much work to send answers back for editing as well as questions. That would be hard to keep track of, I think“_ How did you bring in the mods into it? This would of course not involve the mods, that’s the whole point. People who need help to improve the writing standard of an answer would just search this or another similar OP, and post their text there, and flutherites would make suggestions. Just like some students post OPs asking for help with part of their essay, or something, ..except this is not homework help.
-”...the person answering has a responsibility to meet the writing standards of the site, in any case.” Yes, and this help that purpose.
@Dutchess_III See answer to @dappled_leaves
-“OP” stands for “original poster.” It refers to the person who posted the question, not the post itself.”_ They are both posts. The purpose of my using “OP” (original posting ) is to distinguish it from an “answer” which asks for clarification for example. I try to use question/OP as much as possible.

….So, before someone posts an answer to an OP, if they think their writing standard is not the best, they would just search this or another similar OP, and post their text there, and flutherites would make suggestions. And then, after making the improvement they post their answer to the OP.

@flo “How did you bring in the mods into it?”

My understanding was that you asked this question because you received an answer that you liked, but it was modded for poor writing standards. I assumed from that information that you wanted the mods to have an alternative option to removing the comment… so that it could be edited by the OP. If the comment has been removed by the mods, no one can improve it. So, they would have to be involved – not by editing the comment, but by intentionally leaving the comment alone. I don’t think there’s a mechanism for them to do that, and I suspect it would make their job harder.

” The purpose of my using “OP” (original posting ) is to distinguish it from an “answer””

I would recommend using the word “question” instead, which serves the same purpose, and creates less confusion. @Dutchess_III is right, “OP” is generally understood to refer to the person.

This is a question and answer site, not an English class.

Just go here for help.

For the most part, I think the mods rather lenient (thankfully) on technical matters regarding the rules of English. This is particularly the case for those questions distinguishable as products from those unaccustomed to writing in English. Most of us here are usually capable of discerning the thrust of such questions, regardless of the butchered English. My own personal bitch is about the questions which materialize here in perfect English that make not a lick of sense. But @Flo brings up an interesting point worthy of debate.

Thanks @stanleybmanly.

How many people have we met and/or heard in media, whose English is very broken, but are impressive about how knowledgeable they are?

By the way @stanleybmanly answers too, right?
“Most of us here are usually capable of discerning the thrust of such questions, regardless of the butchered English.”

Yes, but here, especially if you’re a native English speaker, it’s far better if you’re able to word a question in such a way that it appears well thought out and coherent, and not scattered like leaves blowing in the wind.