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Demosthenes's avatar

Should discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation be illegal?

Asked by Demosthenes (14933points) October 7th, 2019
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Some states and cities have laws against discrimination based on sexual orientation in housing, employment, etc. but there is no federal law and discrimination of this kind still occurs without repercussions in many areas. The Civil Rights Act prohibits discrimination based on sex, but not on sexual orientation. The Supreme Court will be deciding soon on whether sexual orientation should be included in the prohibition on discrimination.

How do you think the Supreme Court will rule? How do you want them to rule?

Even if they do decide that there should be protections for LGBT people, there will probably be religious exemptions. Are there any reasonable exemptions you think should be granted?

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elbanditoroso's avatar

They should make it unlawful to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

I have grave doubts that the Supreme Court has the courage to do so, since the non-partisan (supposedly) court is packed with right-wing Republicans.

zenvelo's avatar

I agree with @elbanditoroso there should be protections built in for housing and jobs for LGBTQAI people.

And “religious exemptions” are a load of carp, since those requesting “freedom of religion ” are not following the teachings they so violently proclaim.

si3tech's avatar

Absolutely! Anything, place,term,word/s can definitely be made “illegal” by the “politically correct”. Big fine in NYC now if you say “illegal aliens”.

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Demosthenes's avatar

@zenvelo Yeah, I’m willing to give the “MAGA court” the benefit of the doubt, but I won’t be surprised if they decide against this. That would be a culture war victory that Republicans wanted in electing Trump and banking on his Supreme Court nominations. Maybe the Democrats will start caring about the Supreme Court for once.

@si3tech I don’t think it’s a matter of “political correctness”. It’s a matter of LGBT people expecting to be able to keep their job or rent an apartment despite their LGBT status.

ragingloli's avatar

Should, yes.
But considering this, chances are, that it will not.

zenvelo's avatar

@si3tech Replace “politically correct” with the words “people wishing to be treated with respect”.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

It should be illegal nationally to discriminate based on sexual orientation or gender expression. The Supreme Court will not rule this way. They will rule to allow discrimination. The idea of religious exemptions is stupid.

KNOWITALL's avatar

Yes it should be illegal, but I’m skeptical that it will be.

Tom and Nancy from First Baptist will not be forced to rent to people they don’t want to rent to. Whether it’s religious reasons is up for debate.

seawulf575's avatar

There is one place discrimination is alive and well…Hollywood. They frequently give parts based on gender preference, they discriminate based on age and sex and color…there are tons of examples there. Should Hollywood also be forced to give parts regardless of age, sex, race, etc?

kritiper's avatar

No. Why should I be thrown in jail because somebody wanted to have sex with me but I didn’t want to have sex with them?

seawulf575's avatar

@kritiper are you responding to me? I not talking about creepy old guys. I’m talking about roles in movies. After all, in Shakespeare’s day, men played all parts…men and women. Why can’t men play women’s parts, women play men’s parts, black’s play whites, etc?

zenvelo's avatar

@seawulf575 Hollywood should not be forced by law, but certainly be forced by public opinion and castigation. There have been enough discriminatory castings in the movie industry in the last 100 years. There is no need to cast a white girl to play a Polynesian princess.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

@seawulf575 I am also baffled by @kritiper‘s answer. I’m completely puzzled by whom he’s addressing, and what his answer has to do with the question or the thread.

kritiper's avatar

I was addressing the OP’s question.
If a gay man or some fat chick propositions me for sex, and I refuse, I might be considered guilty of discrimination. So should my refusal put me in jail? No.

Sagacious's avatar

@kritiper No. Discrimination laws refer to discrimination in employment, access to public facilities, access to business open to the public…..not individual discrimination. Each person can choose (discriminate) with whom they want to associate, speak to, date, marry, etc. The NYC law will be held unconstitutional as soon as someone receives a fine for speech and files a law suit in federal court for infringement of First Amendment rights. Wonder how long that will be.

seawulf575's avatar

@zenvelo why shouldn’t they be forced by law? Every other industry is.

zenvelo's avatar

@seawulf575 Name a single industry where someone is forced by law to hire a specific race or gender or belief. Discrimination is a matter of not setting up artificial barriers, not a matter of hiring a specific person.

seawulf575's avatar

@zenvelo you are trying to twist the issue, but even that is not working for you. The issue is not that the law says a person has to hire a specific race or gender or belief. The law states that you cannot discriminate against someone for those reasons. That’s about the exact opposite of what you were saying. But now let’s look a bit deeper Ever hear of Affirmative Action? That has been used in just about every industry in this country. I’ve lost out on job promotions because a person of color played the race card to get it instead. So yeah…it isn’t really a law, but there are a number of law suits that can be used as precedence to make a company hire someone because of their race or gender or belief.
When a company hires someone, they have to take extra measures to ensure they are not hiring based on sex or age or religious beliefs, or any of the other identified categories. Now, compare that to Hollywood. They hire specific looks or ages or whatever for jobs. If a guy tried to audition for the role of The Little Mermaid he would not be allowed to. He isn’t the right age or sex. That is discrimination. Why doesn’t the law apply there?

kritiper's avatar

I know what discrimination means and how the law is defined. However, as a potential employer, I’d rather not chance it…

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