If it were an actual serious health hazard then I’d wear a mask but I would wear a mask that actually prevents a virus from entering my body.

It is is a serious health hazard. Young people with no underlying health issues are dying from this disease, not just people at risk.

LOL ok.

I’m assuming you’re the kind of person that ignores their doctor when they give you medical advice.

And you do realize that wearing a mask is to prevent OTHER people from getting the disease right? Not wearing a mask is pretty selfish in my opinion.

@Coolhandluke – It’s about the risk you pose to other people, as @rockfan pointed out.

With that in mind, what will it take for you to wear one?

If the idea is to prevent infecting other people when you cough then you should cough into a tissue dispose of it and wash your hands.
Coughing into a mask that you’ll then put in your bag or pocket so you can wear it again later etc does not protect anyone.

From what I can see on social media, some people feel it’s a violation of their rights and liberties.

@Lightlyseared: “If the idea is to prevent infecting other people when you cough then you should cough into a tissue dispose of it and wash your hands.”

Is that how C19 is transmitted? Through planned coughs that are not covered? Can you cite anything that recommends planning your coughs into a tissue rather than wearing a mask?

@Lightlyseared: “Coughing into a mask that you’ll then put in your bag or pocket so you can wear it again later etc does not protect anyone.”

Why wouldn’t a mask that had been coughed in work?

And to the point of this question: Why are you resisting the simple act of wearing a mask in public? What would it take for you to wear one?

@rockfan, @jca2, I’m assuming those people feel the same about traffic lights (“Who are they to tell me when to go and when to stop?”), air travel safety regulations, trespassing ordinances, and anything else that limits their behavior in any way. Do they think our Constitution is carte blanche for hoodlums?

I would love to see a completely lawless zone designated for the exclusive use of those who think protecting others is no concern of theirs. Wonder how long it would take them to invent sheriffs.

I agree with you @Jeruba. I don’t engage them or argue with them on their social media pages. I figure they’re entitled to their opinion and my comments wouldn’t change their minds, or should I say “their closed minds.”

…..more bad news. .

No judgement, just love. To show consideration for others and for myself, I wear one. When in Rome do as the Romans do- works for me. Although, a preponderance of evidence works best for me.

@cheebdragon: They’ve been saying that. That’s why they always said don’t touch your face.

A good reason to lower your voice:

“A study published by the National Academy of Sciences in the U.S. last week found that one minute of loud speech was enough to produce thousands of droplets that remain airborne for about 12 minutes, potentially able to infect anyone in the area.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/superspreader-events-offer-a-clue-on-curbing-coronavirus/ar-BB14mzoD

Especially bad news for opera fans like me.
 

@Coolhandluke, haven’t you ever worn anything to protect the other party from something you could transmit?

@Coolhandluke?

@hmmmmmm

If the idea is to prevent infecting other people when you cough then you should cough into a tissue dispose of it and wash your hands.”

Is that how C19 is transmitted? Yes. The primary route of transmission is touch. Viral particles are present in respiratory secretions, coughing or sneezing expels those virus particles as small droplets that then land on surfaces where someone else touches the surface and transfers the virus particles to their mouth or nose.

Can you cite anything that recommends planning your coughs into a tissue rather than wearing a mask? Yes. The WHO.

“Coughing into a mask that you’ll then put in your bag or pocket so you can wear it again later etc does not protect anyone.”

Why wouldn’t a mask that had been coughed in work?

I’m surprised you can’t work it out yourself but here you go… You cough into the mask transferring viral particles to the mask – you put the mask into your bag/pocket transferring viral particles to your bag/pocket – you put your hands into your bag/pocket transferring viral particles to your hand – you touch various other surfaces transferring viral particles to those surfaces for other people to touch. There is growing evidence that the impromper removal and disposal of PPE was responsible for vast majority of healthcare workers infections. The primary reason they did not dispose of the mask appropriately is because of international shortages in the supply chain and politicians encouraging members of the public to wear mask at all times just increases the pressure on the supply chain and encourages unscrupulous venders to sell to the public at a massive mark up instead of supplying care workers. “Ah Haaaaa” I hear you scream, “but they are telling us to use a scarf and or other cloth covering not medical mask” which is true but then you only have to go out your door to see that’s not what a lot of people are doing. And also a covering such as these will only filter a fraction of the viral particles when someone coughs – a scarf will filter about 1% which is less than useless as it makes people behave in increasingly risk ways because they think they’re being good citizens. Then of course you have to fact in the fact that wearing a mask or face covering increases the amount of times you touch your face increasing the risk that you will acquire it or if you already have it that you will spread it.

The recommendation that wearing face mask is only made so that politicians can feel as though they are doing something and covering up for the fact they fucked up badly in January when they could have made a difference but didn’t.

I live in a neighborhood where at least three health care providers also live. I make masks (two high thread count cotton layers, and a layer of non-woven interfacing between) and these people have asked for my masks to help protect themselves and their hospital colleagues as they are not issued enough PPE supplies.
Nothing that a regular citizen would wear is 100% protective, of course, but a decent mask can help diminish exposure when used in conjunction with good sense. Barrier methods help.

@Lightlyseared: “Is that how C19 is transmitted? Yes. The primary route of transmission is touch. Viral particles are present in respiratory secretions, coughing or sneezing expels those virus particles as small droplets that then land on surfaces where someone else touches the surface and transfers the virus particles to their mouth or nose.”

I could be wrong, but isn’t speaking considered risky as well? And before respiratory drops land on surfaces, they are suspended in the air for a brief time, right? Wouldn’t everyone wearing a mask and keeping 6+ distance help reduce transmission?

@Lightlyseared: “The recommendation that wearing face mask is only made so that politicians can feel as though they are doing something and covering up for the fact they fucked up badly in January when they could have made a difference but didn’t.”

You’re convinced that there is no benefit to populations wearing a mask, and that it’s merely politics? I’m confused. How do you draw that conclusion? What would be your recommendation to reduce/slow spread of C19? If barrier methods don’t work, are you suggesting that we let it burn through the population as quickly as possible?

And just to be clear – I’m asking these questions sincerely. I am not up on the latest science re: C19, and just feel that if there is something I can do to reduce the chance of getting someone getting sick, I should do it.

FWIW, I wear my mask around my neck in the car and then put it up outside. When I get home, I take it off immediately and soak it in hot water so I don’t see that it is contaminating anything else.@Lightlyseared.

I also feels that it tells other people that I am serious about social distancing and helps them know to keep away or that I am walking away from them.

The last credible source that I saw claimed that the rate of transmission would decrease 80% if everyone were wearing a mask.

The Czechs did pretty well with that.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/25/czech-republic-face-mask-coronavirus-restrictions-pubs-restaurants-hotels

In NY, our Governor today made an Executive Order that businesses have the right to not allow entry to people who are not wearing masks or face coverings. There’s such a culture of people who refuse or give a hard time about it, so this way, there’s no disputing it when they get kicked out.

What fascinates me with these people is that they scream about their rights to not wear a face mask, but don’t say a word abut being secretly screened for a temperature when entering a store. They also have nothing to say about the social tracking

@hmmmmmm It’s not that I’m not convinced barrier methods don’t work but I am convinced that the general public won’t use it correctly (from direct observation of people not using it correctly and from patients admitted to my hospital having managed to injure themselves using face masks (facial burns after cutting while in mask to smoke, fungal pneumonia from resuming mask, strangulation and an eye injury) and if not used correctly it is more dangerous as it gives a perceived sense of safety.

The Czech Republic closed their borders and businesses weeks before other countries and importantly before they had sustained transmission in the community – most other countries didn’t do that until they were in full blown pandemic crisis. That’s not to do with mask wearing or not it’s to do with massively limiting social interactions all together before it was an issue.

^ So what do you recommend we do? We can’t go back and implement Czech-style shutdown. If not masks, then…?

I wear a mask, however those who are actually worth wearing. They cost around 25–30$ but you get to wear them with Filters, made with activated charcoal, as activated charcoal binds with bacteria, smog, and viruses very well, giving you clear air to breathe. That and that normal masks has already been shown that a woman is suffering fungus in her lungs due to wearing the same mask over and over. Then again, she doesn’t want to pay 50$ just for a new pack of 50–60 masks every 5–10 days. As doctors say that we should dispose them whenever they are used once.