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What do you think of my following general opinion (possible circlejerking)?

Asked by luigirovatti (2836points) February 21st, 2022
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Everyone criticizes public figures for being controversial, but sooner or later every people will be controversial for something. On Facebook, on Reddit, on interviews, etc., someone will say the wrong thing and will be ostracized. It’s always happened and always will happen. Trust me. The incorruptible person doesn’t exist. Bottom line is, everyone should have their right to speak, and noone should judge anyone. But face the judgings in case they happen.

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Chestnut's avatar

Not sure what Reddit is but you’re right, nobody’s perfect. We all have the right to express opinions. If you disagree, that’s fine, but don’t demand others to think exactly like you. That’s wrong.

elbanditoroso's avatar

It is naive and silly to say “no one should judge anyone”.

Mankind was given a brain, and the ability to think and analyze. Almost every action you take from the moment you wake up to the moment you fall asleep is based on thought and analysis. (Example: is it raining? Should I decided to wear a raincoat? What the TV weathermman say? Should I believe him?)

So to say that people ‘shouldn’t judge’ is taking away – dehumanizing – one of the primary attributes that humans have. It’s just silly.

Now, if you want to say ‘people can draw their conclusions but shouldn’t take about them’, then OK. I sill think you’re wrong – you would be denying their right to speak. But that’s a little more tenable.

In the end, @luigi, I have no idea what your gripe is. It’s barely a question, more of a whine. What are you really asking?

cookieman's avatar

Sure, we all say and do dumb and/or questionable things. The difference is, we don’t all do them on social media. That part is avoidable.

rebbel's avatar

I don’t trust you.
In this.

raum's avatar

Everyone has a right to speak. But as Uncle Ben said, with great power comes great responsibility.

The greater the platform and influence you have, the more you should weigh the impact of your words.

Zaku's avatar

Criticism and corruption are two different things.

And the things that can be criticized come in degrees.

For example, Bernie Sanders has been criticized for letting some black protestors speak when he was supposed to be the speaker, or for not being poor, or for exaggerating sometimes. Meanwhile others get criticized for outright lying, criminality, blatant racism, incompetence, fundamental ignorance etc. So those are literal examples of what you are seeing, but there is also a massive difference in degree.

smudges's avatar

What do I think of your opinion? meh

Mimishu1995's avatar

I think @luigirovatti is talking about cancel culture, people who are ostracized for saying the wrong thing. Yeah, I agree that we shouldn’t cancel anyone for their perceived wrongdoing. Everyone will mess up one way or another, and Internet justice can be taken too far.

But people should also take responsibility for what they do. If they mess up, they have to do something to admen the damage. Everyone should be kind and non-judgemental to each other, but that doesn’t exempt anyone from responsibility.

An easy example is when you catch a child swearing. You don’t beat the child up. The kinder approach would be to tell the child that the word they just said is bad, and they shouldn’t do that again. Now it’s the child’s responsibility to watch their language from now on.

I think this is what @luigrovatti is getting at, although the language he uses is really weird, and it sounds like he is saying that people should be exempted from responsibility because no one is perfect.

Mimishu1995's avatar

@elbanditoroso you are confusing critical thinking with being judgemental. You can critically analyze a situation without being judgemental about it. Critical thinking is digging deeper to see the root of everything and analyze clues for what they are. Being judgemental on the other hand is an emotional reaction to something you don’t like. Oftentimes emotion can cloud your mind and make you form an incorrect one-sided judgement. People like therapists and counsellors have to put their judgement aside a lot because their work is to help someone heal, and they are aware that people are messy. It doesn’t mean they condone to every action of their patients though. Their job is to brainstorm a healthy solution for their patients to become a better person. That takes critical thinking, not judgement.

Critical thinking says “this guy weighs 90kg and he doesn’t seem healthy”. Being judgemental says “this guy weighs 90kg! What a disgusting fatso! Does he have no shame?”

elbanditoroso's avatar

@Mimishu1995 I disagree. Analysis by its very nature implies judgment of some sort or another. Otherwise how can one analyze?

smudges's avatar

“this guy weighs 90kg and he doesn’t seem healthy”

Judgment: the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions.

The fact that “he doesn’t seem healthy” is a sensible conclusion, i.e., a judgment.

@elbanditoroso is right, Analysis by its very nature implies judgment of some sort or another.

Entropy's avatar

I’m not really sure what you’re advocating. You’re not very clear.

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