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Asked by Dutchess_III (46811points) August 25th, 2022
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Tropical_Willie's avatar

The reason for warrant will be released and tangerine turd will again be shown to be a law breaker !

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HP's avatar

I read it as the government has satisfied the judge that redactions were necessary in the LEGITIMATE (his word) pursuit of its investigation

KNOWITALL's avatar

It means redacted portions may render it useless. We may learn nothing.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

The person that told the DOJ / FBI to get a warrant will not be made public !

Melania Trump

Dutchess_III's avatar

So redacted portions of the search warrant are deleted? And why is there a second search warrant and when was it issued?

HP's avatar

@KNOWITALL that too! We’ll know soon enough.

HP's avatar

In view of the lunatic fringe, the witholding of names and information involving witnesses and others involved must seem justified to the judge.

chyna's avatar

@Tropical_Willie I’m thinking Jared.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Dutchess_III Correct. The documents will disclose only parts that will not affect ‘future cases’. I haven’t found a second warrant.

Meanwhile…
“Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents,” Trump said in part.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Per the 4th amendment to the US Constitution, the FBI needed a warrant from a judge to search Mar a Lago.

Amendment IV
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

The affidavit is the statement explaining to the judge why the FBI believed searching Mar a Lago was necessary. “We believe documents are held at Mar a Lago in violation of US law. Our evidence of this is [insert evidence here].”

The judge accepted the reasoning and issued a warrant. The FBI went to Mar a Lago and removed government documents which Trump and his people had taken on their way out of Washington.

Trump, among his ever-changing excuses and claims around the situation, says the search was illegal/unnecessary/whatever and is demanding the affidavit be made public. The DOJ has objected. His lawyers would get the affidavit if he is indicted for crimes, but he, as he does, is waging a public-relations war.

The judge is allowing the release, but the affidavit will be heavily redacted (edited) to protect the FBI’s sources and methods.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Call_Me_Jay And the DOJ recommended Mueller NOT press charges this week, for obstruction. Seems odd since the warrant seemingly is because he didn’t turn them over.

HP's avatar

Mueller?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Rick read it. They redacted full pages at a time. Why?

chyna's avatar

@HP Ferris Beuler’s distant cousin.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Washington Post – ”[Judge] Reinhart granted the request to unseal the affidavit but allowed the Justice Department to propose redactions of information that government officials said could jeopardize the probe or the safety of witnesses.”

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@Dutchess_III . . because it included all the witnesses names and informants (Melania ? ? ?), agents names (He’d send the Proud Boys to fix them) and what the have on him that can convict him (probable cause) !

KNOWITALL's avatar

@HP Sorry, my mind moves faster than my fingers sometimes.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/24/1119322386/memo-barr-trump-mueller-doj

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

@KNOWITALL The memo was written in 2019 does not regard current events.

It was Trump appointees saying Trump should not be prosecuted in 2019.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Trump is toast if they find he sold TS documents (it could be treason and a firing squad) to Putin or Kim Jong-un).

“Definition: In Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is specifically limited to levying war against the U.S., or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Penalty: Under U.S. Code Title 18, the penalty is death, or not less than five years’ imprisonment (with a minimum fine of $10,000, if not sentenced to death). Any person convicted of treason against the United States also forfeits the right to hold public office in the United States.

The terms used in the definition derive from English legal tradition, specifically the Treason Act 1351. Levying war means the assembly of armed people to overthrow of the government or to resist its laws. Enemies are subjects of a foreign government that is in open hostility with the United States. Those who assemble to levy war, as well as those who conspire with them, can be prosecuted. The American definition is narrower than that of English law, which spanned other classes of treason such as counterfeiting and bringing indignity upon the king.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States

JLeslie's avatar

I really doubt he sold any documents.

I think Trump committed treason, but he does it in a mob boss sort of way.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I doubt Trump sold documents and don’t think he committed treason. But he is a useful fool for anyone who impresses him, flatters him and manipulates him, and feeds him misinformation.

chyna's avatar

I worry about who all trump has shown these documents to, so he could show off.

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