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Can you help me understand ekphrasis?

Asked by Hawaii_Jake (37346points) January 12th, 2023
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I’ve read the definition. It makes me think it’s a meta word for writing about writing, or something similar. I can’t help but think there’s more to it.

Your insight is requested.

(This question arose, because I’m reading essays by the two-spirit Canadian writer Joshua Whitehead. He had an essay around this subject. I still need help.)

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Hawaii_Jake's avatar

I just read another definition. I may have completely misunderstood it. Now I’m thoroughly confused.

zenvelo's avatar

It is a writing about a piece of art. For instance: “Rodin’s grimacing giant pondering his own existence while schoolboys say he is wondering where the toilet paper is, shows how The Thinker bridges between classicism and farce.”

Jeruba's avatar

I had to look up ekphrasis; somehow it was not covered in my literary education. I found this description on a page of Oregon State University: “Basically, an ekphrasis is a literary description of art.”

The key idea there is literary. The art work exists, or is presumed to exist, outside the particular work of literature, but the description of it serves some literary purpose.

The Picture of Dorian Gray came immediately to mind, and I looked far enough to see that this fictitious portait is indeed considered an ideal instance of ekphrasis; so the described work of art does not have to exist in the real world. Here, Oscar Wilde uses the painting to mirror the moral dissolution of his character while the living Dorian Gray remains astonishingly young and beautiful.

Another familiar example is John Keats’s “Ode on a Grecian Urn,” in which the poet describes the figures painted on a Grecian urn as being captured in their prime and preserved forever by the artist’s depiction of their beauty, while we in the living world will fade, grow old, and die.

Does this help? I can dig deeper if necessary.

Jeruba's avatar

Is this your source?

https://canadianart.ca/essays/on-ekphrasis-and-emphasis/

Whitehead defines ekphrasis as “the literary description of or commentary on a visual work of art.”

He elaborates: “Ekphrasis is a rhetorical exercise in which an artist relates to another medium by describing its aesthetics, form, or thematic essence.”

So it appears that he is using the same definition as the other sources I found. His idea of the essential relationship between the two media is both rich and compelling. I may have to read this myself.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

^Thank you. Yes, that’s my source. I guess I need to stop reading the good stuff only at bedtime when I’m bleary.

Strauss's avatar

Could the term also be applied to musical works in addition to literary? A possible example might be Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition, orchestrated by Ravel.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

^It sounds similar to me.

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