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elbanditoroso's avatar

If you were a terrorist, would you register with the state of New York?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33176points) February 15th, 2015
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In what has to be one of the stupidest ideas that a politician has ever dreamt up, this idiot from Islip NY has proposed a registry of terrorists in his state.

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There are so many things wrong with this idea, it could only have come from a Republican.

If you were a terrorist, would you register?

If you were a terrorist, would the existence of the registry deter you from moving in NY?

Would you, an average citizen, feel more or less comfortable when you consulted the registry?

Is any terrorist really stupid enough to self-identify?

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jca's avatar

Meh. Politicians have to justify their existence. It’s a way for the guy to get his name in the news and to show he is tough on terrorism.

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ragingloli's avatar

Sure, why not.
They already have comprehensive information about terrorists, but that did not help them prevent the Boston attacks, the shoe bomber, or 9/11, all three of which they knew of beforehand.
Besides, colonial cops are too busy murdering and slaying unarmed black people to pursue terrorists.

JLeslie's avatar

This story is being misinterpreted I think.

There is a terrorist registry for flying. The terrorists didn’t sign up, the government put it together. It serves as a check, or trigger, for the agents and computer systems checking in passengers. My BIL used to have a hard time checking in because his name was in the list. It is not him, but is the same name. It’s been fixed now with the use of a middle name. It went in for years though, and he always had to allow for extra time at the airport back then.

gailcalled's avatar

“Croci’s bill calls for terrorists to report their addresses, submit DNA samples, and provide the state with an updated photograph annually.”

JLeslie's avatar

If that’s the case then maybe “terrorists” sometimes are convicted, but eventually are back on the streets. I don’t know how the law defines terrorist. It might be different than how we think about it.

Or, he is a total idiot. I don’t know. I’m just being devils advocate. There might be some legal jargon we don’t understand.

ucme's avatar

Yeah, i’m terribly photogenic & react well to stimulus.

keobooks's avatar

Asking this is like asking if you’d voluntarily register as a sex offender. Of course you wouldn’t, but if you got arrested for a sex offending crime, you’d be registered.

BhacSsylan's avatar

“As proposed, the law would compel anyone with a history of terrorism — including those convicted of a state or federal crime of terrorism or who have committed a “verifiable act” of terrorism — to sign-up.”

As with the sex-offenders registry, it would not be voluntary, and would apply to those convicted but not currently imprisoned. Read better.

That said, I still think it’s a bad idea, but not because it sounds silly.

keobooks's avatar

Compel means force. That’s not voluntary. It also compares its registry with the sex offender registry. YOU read better.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Seems kind of dumb honestly. As if anyone convicted of an act of terrorism (whatever that may mean) will ever see the outside of a cell again.

BhacSsylan's avatar

@keobooks…I was agreeing with you. Seriously, read what i said again. The ‘read better’ was a general comment to everyone else in this thread misreading/misunderstanding it, though considering you misread me writing “it would not be voluntary” as ‘voluntary’...

keobooks's avatar

Sorry @BhacSsylan – I thought I deleted that.

keobooks's avatar

Anyway, I wonder if people convicted of crimes that would NOW be considered terrorism that weren’t originally considered terrorism. When I was in high school, two kids in my class took a pump toothpaste bottle, made it into a bomb and put it in with the other bottles in a local KMart. A little girl opened the bottle and it exploded in her face. She lost an eye and had a lot of scarring on her face.

The boys served a relatively short sentence and I don’t think it was considered terrorism back then. Today, I’m pretty sure it would be. I wonder if they would be on some sort of list.

ragingloli's avatar

No doubt the definition of terrorism would be expanded to include all kinds of minor shenanigans.
Just like someone pissing in public is considered a sex offender.

ibstubro's avatar

Silly.
Every knows that terrorists have been forced out of the NY housing markets much like many native New Yorkers.
Any meaningful registry would have to be in New Jersey. ~

flutherother's avatar

They should have a register of ‘bad guys’ to stop crime.

ibstubro's avatar

Yeah.
Let’s just have a simple “Threat to Society” registry and be done with it.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@ibstubro – if they do that, 70% of Americans would qualify

ibstubro's avatar

Exactly, @elbanditoroso.

Then we’ll know how much tea to order in for the block party.

BeenThereSaidThat's avatar

First of all you should try reading the whole article instead of the misleading headline. Second as a New Yorker I can swear to the fact that this crappy State is run by Democrats. You have to search long and hard to find an elected Republican.

Darth_Algar's avatar

It seems the New York State Senate has a Republican majority. I didn’t have to look long or hard to find that much out.

Brian1946's avatar

“You have to search long and hard….” ” I didn’t have to look long or hard…” Apparently John Holmes and Mike Hawk can serve as metaphors for search engines. ;-o

cheebdragon's avatar

“Any activity that involves an act that is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive to critical infrastructure or key resources, and is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any state or other subdivision of the United States and appears to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping.”

“Terrorism” is pretty fucking vague, but then again, just peeing in public can get you put on the sex offender list.
I’m more concerned by the comment that It could only come from a republican? Really? and yet democrats seem to hold the highest record

Darth_Algar's avatar

@cheebdragon

And how, exactly, does that article correlate with the thread topic or what you quoted in italics? It’s almost as if you picked some random article with no relevance whatsoever just to say ‘see, these guys suck too”.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The huge number of innocent people already hamstrung at airports through erroneous listing should demonstrate just how good the government is at labeling people. If terrorists in this country blew up a building a day, it’s a good bet that the economic loss would pale in comparison to the man hours wasted and the glaring inefficiencies generated by the current system. If you stop to consider that extra hour or so each and every traveler spends in those airport livestock pens, the financial costs (though hidden) are absolutely staggering. This is another stupid idea designed to panic frightened people to jettison basic rights as we stampede toward a garrison state. And of course once more it’s another routine backwater conservative complete with vacuous expression rushing to the dais to announce to the world “I am a fool”.

JLeslie's avatar

@Darth_Algar What @cheebdragon wrote relates for the same reason I question the hysteria in response to the bill. Convicted terrorists would be registered like sex offenders. Why is the concept so difficult? I’m not sure I agree with the idea, but it isn’t outrageous.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@JLeslie

@cheebdragon has edited, and added to, her post since I posted that. And I wasn’t asking how what she wrote relates, I’m asking how what she linked to (an article about an ineffectual US Congressman with record of 0–646 in passing bills) relates to the topic.

cheebdragon's avatar

@Darth_Algar How did the comment that something so stupid could only come from a republican, relate to the original link in question?? People are stupid in general, some are republican politicians and some are democrats. If we are going to talk shit, let’s not leave anyone out.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@cheebdragon

And yet that link still has no relevance to the topic at hand, but do try again.

cheebdragon's avatar

@Darth_Algar The link is evidence enough that not every bill ends up getting passed anyway. I’ve tried to explain it as simply as I can, if it’s beyond comprehension Im sorry, but it’s not my job to hold your hand, kiddo.

Darth_Algar's avatar

If that was your point then you should have made it.

cheebdragon's avatar

@Darth_Algar You really couldn’t see any possible relation between an article about a politician pushing for a more or less useless bill, and an article about another politician who has been trying to push more or less useless bills and failed over 600 times? It’s not like it was a link to an episode of Barney.

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