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Can we have some discussion on Trump’s recent deluge of pardons?

Asked by stanleybmanly (24153points) December 26th, 2020
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Of course, no one is surprised, and these are every bit as predictable as the rising of the sun. Is all the disgust around this just media driven hype?

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jca2's avatar

While I’m not thrilled with the people he pardoned, I find it no different than any pardon given by Presidents in the past. If they’re in jail for a federal crime, they’ve no doubt done something unsavory and they really should serve their time, but he has the right, so he uses the right.

I’ll bet the prosecutors who spent a lot of time and aggravation with their court cases to get the guilty verdicts are pissed.

(I was kind of hoping he’d pardon Joe Exotic)

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Pardoning the Blackwater Iraq War criminals is about the worst. They fired into a crowd, including children.

You know how in the movies the very worst bad guys, like Nazis, murder civilians with impunity? That’s how we look to the world, thanks to Trump and his supporters.

Demosthenes's avatar

I don’t understand why he’s pardoning mercenaries as if that’s something his supporters were clamoring for, but the freedom to pardon is essentially unlimited so all we can do is shake our heads and move on. I agree with @jca2 that a lot of pardons from various presidents seem questionable to me.

canidmajor's avatar

Pardoning conscienceless mercenaries is a great way to staff a personal army.

ragingloli's avatar

In a better world, this would be the impetus to abolish a president’s privilege to issue pardons completely, or at the very least, severely curtail it.

elbanditoroso's avatar

What’s to discuss? Trump is a criminal and he pardons his buddies. Now he will have supporters forever, people who will adore him until they die. The guy is a crook and always will be.

The one minor bit of satisfaction I have is that all of the people who he pardoned were (and are) criminals convicted of their crimes, so they have that reputation to live with for the rest of their lives.

Zaku's avatar

What’s to discuss (though perhaps not be us) is who he pardoned, why, what that reveals, what they can now be questioned about without being able to invoke the 5th Amendment right to refuse to answer to avoid self-incrimination, and what else they can still be charged with.

LadyMarissa's avatar

By accepting his pardon, they are admitting guilt!!!

JLeslie's avatar

Right, no surprise. If people are upset about it then look to change the rules for pardoning in the future.

A friend of mine feels a President shouldn’t be able to pardon people he/she is intertwined with.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

By accepting his pardon, they are admitting guilt!!!

They are already convicted. Now they are convicted and free.

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