@MrItty Also, about the crossing, now I question my memory. When we visit, usually when we are leaving I can picture her standing in front of my husband making the sign of the cross and kissing her cross charm, and in my memory she is crossing him. We are going to be visiting soon I’ll have to watch for it. I don’t think she always does it, because her son converted to Judaism, maybe she feels uneasy, but sometimes does it out of habit? Which does not bother me at all, I just think of it as a ritual she does with her children, no matter what religion my husband is, she is still Catholic.